Thameslink have launched a second round of consultation into plans to run services along the Greenwich line. Train will run from Luton Airport to Rainham in Kent via St Pancras. Here’s a brief round-up:

  • Two trains an hour will run all day
  • There are still no plans for Thameslink trains to stop at Belvedere and Erith despite sharp growth in recent years and large amounts of homes being built in planning Bexley Council have gone all out on Crossrail going beyond Abbey Wood, despite little hope of that in the next decade, yet have said little about this.
  • Woolwich Dockyard will also be skipped despite Thameslink only using 8-carriage trains.
  • The last train back from London Bridge is very early at 23:18. let’s hope late Southeastern services are more frequent.
  • Journey times are longer than before the multi-billion pound London Bridge rebuild begun which was sold as speeding up journeys as the tangle of tracks and crossings outside the station would be simplified. Draft timetables show, for example, that Abbey Wood to London Bridge timed at 32 minutes. It was 27 minutes before work begun despite calling at more stations. More timetable padding and manipulation to avoid late charges? Where will it go next – 40 minute journeys? From Thameslink:

So they’ll be less time waiting to approach London Bridge yet instead trains will be sitting at every station for minutes at a time meaning no net gain and actually slower journeys? Great work.

The positives are a direct link to St Pancras for onward connections, along with trains to Farringdon, City Thameslink and Blackfriars, though the last two are close to Cannon Street.

Despite the two trains an hour Thameslink service is there is still a net loss for many stations compared to when work begun in 2015?

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Southeastern have also launched future plans today and I’ll be looking at them very soon.